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EP019: Peptides Explained For Real Life And The Vitamins That Are Foundational
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Peptides are having a moment, but most people still can’t answer the basic question: what are they, and how do they actually affect your body? We bring on nutritional therapist Kevin Hall to translate the science into real-life terms and help you sort therapeutic peptides from supplement-store “peptides,” hype, and half-truths.
Kevin explains peptides as short amino acid chains that act like cellular signals, essentially the language your cells use to communicate. From there we dig into GLP-1 medications like semaglutide, why they can dramatically reduce appetite and “quiet the food noise,” and the big risk many people miss: if you’re eating less and not protecting protein intake, you can lose muscle right along with fat. We talk about why muscle is not a vanity metric in your 60s, 70s, and beyond, and how lean mass supports metabolism, immune strength, bone density, and long-term independence.
We also connect inflammation to the rest of the story. Kevin breaks down how chronic inflammation can drive cortisol, how that can feed insulin resistance and visceral fat, and why improvements in inflammation can ripple into markers people care about like cholesterol and blood pressure. Then we land on a practical, listener-friendly plan: the four foundations Kevin wants in place before anyone even thinks about peptides, including what to look for in a quality multivitamin, magnesium forms that absorb well, omega-3 EPA/DHA targets, and vitamin D3 with K2. We’re not giving medical advice, so please talk with your healthcare professional before starting peptides or changing supplements.
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Welcome To The Fourth Quarter
SPEAKER_03Wake up, wake up, and listen up. Welcome to the Fourth Quarter Podcast with your hosts, Doug Telmich and Tedania. Tune in as we dive into living your best life in the fourth quarter of your life. Hear from health and lifestyle experts, inspirational stories, learn simple steps to keep you motivated or to help get you started. Finally, join us as we coach others live on air who want to begin a healthy lifestyle or just might be stuck and need a breakthrough. Remember, it's never too late to decide to be great. Momentum keeps you motivated, so take a deep breath. Lean in and let's go. Hey, welcome back to the fourth quarter with Doug and Ted. We have an awesome guest this week. I am really excited myself. I'll let Ted introduce him, but you guys, I'm telling you, before I want you to press pause right now. I want you to go grab a paper and a pen and get ready to take some notes because you are about to go to school. All right. It's cool to be in school, so let's go, let's go. Real quick, uh, hey Ted, last week you and I we had fun. I think it's important you and I let our listeners and our audience get to know you and I a little bit. Uh, I just turned 60, May 16th of this month. And so we talked about that on last week's episode. And and I asked you about some wisdom and some advice as as you were almost a decade older than I am. And it was fun just, you know, playing catch, pitching catch with you on that episode. And then we got into a few other things. So if you want to get to know Ted and I a little bit more and some of the challenges we face, you know, about what we do when we fail. How do we deal with setbacks? And what do we do to come back? And do we come back? Do we always win at the goals we're doing? What do we do when we lose? Because let me tell you, on that episode, you're gonna hear a lot of losing. But at the in the big in the big 30,000-foot view, man, we're winning, Ted. We are winning all the time because we look as we look at losses as lessons, losses as lessons. And so that's just a sneak peek onto what you'll hear. But that's that was last week, Ted. What uh what do we got coming up potentially?
SPEAKER_02Well, we've got a number of things. We're just trying to get them all nailed down to when they come on. We've got the women from Stretchwise that are going to come on and discuss the importance of stretching, especially as we get get older and some of the things they do with their clients who are in their fourth quarter. Probably going to have on some of the people that we've been coaching on air are gonna come back and give us updates on what they're doing. We need to do that. Special one is uh, I think we're gonna have Betty back, everybody's favorite, the host, yeah, guiding light of the fourth quarter podcast. And she just got back from a trip to Greece, and I was following along on social media with her, and just amazing that 82 years old and drinking beers, you know, looking out at the Acropolis and doing hikes in Crete, and I mean she was just all over the place. So very mobile, very mobile. Get her back, get some more of her wisdom. Two, I've had some people ask me about the use of cannabis or THC, CBD oils, that type of thing. Okay. Uh so not not really in my uh realm of knowledge. So we're looking for someone who uh has some expertise on that that possibly could reach out to us and we could pick their brain and and get some answers to questions that we've had uh people asking us.
What’s Coming Up On The Show
SPEAKER_03That's a great topic. I like that. We should definitely that's out there and it's it keeps growing, and they're making all kinds of things now with that with gummies and brownies, and well, the brownies, that's old school in the 60s. You know what I'm talking about, Ted.
SPEAKER_02Yeah, yeah. But you but uh this week I I'm excited as well. We've had a lot of people ask us about the use of peptides and different supplements, and we've looked into it a fair amount, but we decided to go to the expert. So we have Kevin Hall with us. He's a nutritional therapist, he's an expert in peptides and supplements. He's here to join us today. So, Kevin, welcome to the fourth quarter podcast.
SPEAKER_01Thanks for having me, guys. Appreciate being here.
SPEAKER_02Yeah, absolutely. So, in in speaking with you a few weeks ago, we learned that there is uh an interesting background to your story. So, why don't you fill our listeners in what you're all about?
SPEAKER_01Sure. I'm happy to let people know a little bit about who I am. First off, I'm 63 years old, married four grandkids. Since I was four years old, had my first weight set, and uh was always interested in muscles. I wanted to get bigger. I watched, you know, Popeye when I was a kid and and hated vegetables, but I would eat spinach. And um so I was always interested. I was a good athlete at kind of whatever I did, but I was always a little bit undersized and in building muscle. I was always just a little bit much immature in terms of uh physical development, you know, a year or two behind, it seemed like all my great grade mates. But so my interest in in building muscle, the the human body, the physique, metabolism, all these things were interesting, really interesting to me as a as a kid, as a teenager. And at 12 years old, I read the actually, no, I'm sorry, 14 years old. I read a book called The Education of a Bodybuilder by Arnold Schwarzenegger. And that book transformed my thinking and who I wanted to be in life because it really was about him, Arnold is wanting to conquer the bodybuilding world, be the greatest bodybuilder that ever lived, and then he wanted to conquer the silver screen. He says in his book, talks about it, and there was just a politics in there too. So for a guy that that wanted to do that, so that's what I it grabbed a hold of me is I want to do that, I wanted to build my body. I played sports through high school, actually, golf and soccer. I was good at both of those, but loved weightlifting. Um so when I got out of high school, I started weightlifting full-time and got into starting of bodybuilding, and then ultimately got into a bodybuilding career. I competed for 12 years. I won the uh junior USA in 1986 and was top five in the nationals many times for a number of years. And then in 1994, I kind of retired from bodybuilding. And at that time, prior to 1994, I was working with a nutritionist out of Marina Del Rey and basically Santa Monica, who was helping me get ready for what get ready for competitions. He kept wanting to over a year or two. His name is Phil Golia, he's still nutritionist to the stars down in Santa Monica. He wanted me to ask him if I'd get into this business and he'd open up another facility and I would do that. And I said I really didn't want to go back to school and have to go through, jump through all those hoops. Finally convinced me over a few months, and I said to him, Why is it you think I can even do this? And he said, Listen, he says, There's probably only two people that I know, period, that I that know enough about the body that could get me ready for any competition. He says, one of them's you. Wow, and that kind of gave me the confidence to okay. So I entered into the National Institute of Nutritional Education, which is a three-year, at the time graduate course, but I got into it out of Aurora, Colorado, that uh had a certified nutritionist title to it. So it's six semesters, and I went through that, and then I got in to do a nutritional therapy. We actually I went to work for Phil, we opened up another location in Orange County, and then I broke off on my own because I was going in a different direction where I was working more with you know vegetarians and and things
Kevin Hall’s Bodybuilding To Nutrition Path
SPEAKER_01that you know it was his focus was very different, not completely different, but different. And so I started in, and then I worked in a facility with a guy named uh Scott Connolly. Dr. Scott Connolly, who was the developer innovator of Metrex, if you're familiar with that Metrex protein powder. And so I got to learn from Dr. Scott Connolly, and then ultimately I knew enough in bodybuilding about that hormones are really the real string pullers of the metabolism and machinery of the body and and and manipulating it. And I knew it that that's what I had to learn more of about how to do that in nutritional therapy and helping people. And you know, there's lots of hormones that we make metabolically, but what are the supplements you would use to manipulate? What's the dietary factors? How do you measure hormones accurately? Because blood tests, just real quick with hormones, a blood test with hormones is like a dipstick in the blood at that time, showing what hormones are doing. But you literally could put them in a different situation a half hour later and they're different. So it's a very difficult measurement. So it's so hormones, in my opinion, are largely symptomatic. So what are you feeling? Because that gives us a clue of what's really off. Then we look at blood or saliva. Does it back up what the person's actually experiencing? So I knew enough then, and I'm like, I have to learn this stuff. So there's a guy named Charles Polliquin who passed away in 2018, yeah, who's one of the generational physiologists of our time, and in my opinion, probably the most gifted physiologist that uh the planet probably ever knew in his generation.
SPEAKER_04Yeah, yeah.
SPEAKER_01And um, and he had a he had a program called biosignature modulation. And because Charles Canadian, he didn't like teaching it in the United States. And he's I asked him why one time, and he said, because especially in California, the trainers there and the practitioners are born with infinite knowledge, and so they just they couldn't learn. So, so, anyways, I went to get certified in biosignature modulation, which later became basically metabolic balance, is what it currently is. And that's where we look at 14 sites in the human body where I'm pinching them with German calipers, looking at these sites, and 12 of those 14 sites directly correlate to what hormonal functions and systems of the body are doing. So when I test a person, I can look at these 14 sites, have a starting point, know what kind of where they're at, and then I can retest them in two or three or four weeks down the road and see what's out of balance or what's really not optimal or up to speed, because the hormones in our body dictate where we store body fat. So we all store body fat in different areas of the human body. We'd say, why? Because of what hormones are doing inside when they're out of balance or low or optimal or not optimal, then we start storing fat in certain areas. And I'll get more into that, but just to finish up my background is that I've stayed, you know, there's certifications in American Council of Exercise, New Um National Academy of Sports Medicine, so NASM, something I've done in exercise. And um, I stay current with um my continuing education and and really follow sort of the whole peptide world to a degree uh going forward, because that's going to be largely the future of what we're gonna see in terms of human performance and and health and health and wellness. So yeah, so I I I stay up with those certifications and uh learn from my clients. I've been a nutritional therapist since 1994, 93 in business, but really from 90 into 93, 94 on.
SPEAKER_02So one of the things is we kind of looked into this when people were asking us questions was uh peptides, that term seems to have a wide net, covers a lot of a lot of different things. Can you kind of give us a a general idea of what peptides are?
SPEAKER_01Yeah, to make it simple to start with, just so we can kind of go, how does it apply to me personally, or what did I know? Is when we eat a meal, that food breaks down, and it breaks down largely into blood sugar, glucose. When glucose levels elevate, so think of food as a breakdown, it breaks down, hits our blood, our body sends trucks out to pick up the food and transport it to store. The two storage tanks that food, extra food goes to is muscle and fat. Those are the two storage tanks. So when we eat a meal, the meal breaks down, the food hits our blood, we release a peptide. That peptide is called insulin. Insulin's a peptide that we make. And so when you hear the word peptide out there, these are and these are endogenous amino acids chains that we make ourselves. So they're not foreign. This is peptides are the alphabet or the language in which our cells communicate with one another. So every cell in the human body communicates with one another. That's how intricate things really are. So they have to have a language in which cells communicate. So if a cell speaks in English and another one speak in Russian, another one speak in German, then they can't communicate very well. So the language has been set up, you know, in the universe and nature. And I would say that that God is the creator, in my my view, is that their language, cellular language are peptides, and that's how the cells communicate. So when we talk about what we're hearing, these are peptides that have been discovered in the last 70 years. Some of them, it's just they haven't nothing's been done much with them. But really, the whole peptide boom, in my opinion, comes from a a Russian researcher and a scientist named Vladimir Kahavasin out of Russia, who basically was tracking scientific testing, thousands of patients, geriatric patients in Russia over years. He since passed here in the last three years, but he took his information. There were certain peptides that he was using, and these peptides, by the way, he was using weren't something everybody they were taken every one of them every day. You use peptides therapeutically, some of most of them, where you'll use them, maybe these peptides are being once, twice, three times a year for three weeks, some for 10 days, another peptide they were using on an ongoing basis once a week. So the peptides that he was using with these uh geriatric patients, he found over time that they were aging at a slower pace. So they had basically extended their life to a degree. And that measurable measurable amount is is is a little bit controversy on how much it actually has, but it definitely has an impact on it basically extends life. Because peptides are unlike a drug or a pharmaceutical. Think of a drug, well, back up. The uh if a if I describe the human cell as the universe, okay, and it's that intricate, then a drug would be something that's designed to say it's gonna come into the Milky Way galaxy, our galaxy, it's got to get into the galaxy, so it does it through pathways. Okay, that's how drugs get in our body. Peptides to it, they're they hit receptors or pathways, if you will. But a drug would come into the Milky Way galaxy and basically kick the front door open and say, We're doing this, and we can care less what's happening in other galaxies out there. Maybe some stars are burning up and it's causing some problems we call side effects. Okay, okay. That's not what a peptide is. Okay, a peptide would be the equivalent of, okay, we've got to go to the Milky Way galaxy to give instructions. And so it goes into the Milky Way galaxy, doesn't kick the front door open, it's a key that's got one trillion particular locks that it fits, and it hits that particular lock, turns the turns the lock, if you will, and then there's a cascade or a ripple effect, boosh, across the entire universe, where everybody gets the message of what that peptide's instructing, and then get gets to work on the benefit of what that peptide's telling it to do. So peptides, for example, can come into the body and say, okay, we've got to get this pro-inflammatory cytokine interleucobeta 6. We've got to bring it down 30%. It's a little too high. And the others, this other one, thromboxane that's too high, we've got to pull it down 70%. So it can differentiate in what needs to take place, not just go, okay, all of them are lowering, and it might cause problems for some other particular pro-inflammatory, what we call cytokines or signals, if you will, or pathways. So a peptide basically going back is the language in which cells communicate, and the peptides that we have available from this Vladimir Kavison that I largely learned learned about that hit this, you know, hit the internet with his information too, and then we were off. And everybody's sailing on the same ship to a degree with learning about these. So it's evolving, it's shaping. There's certain peptides that people used that people will do even differently today. Some will do them daily, some shouldn't be done daily. They should be done maybe every three or four or five days because they have a longer half-life. And so I'll just start out with that. And then secondary is with peptides, is that there's kryptonite with everything. Okay. And so we'd say, well, what is the what's the kryptonite, or how does the body negatively deal with them? Well, it's really not the negative, it's just a peptide is a signal, so it comes in and hits a receptor. And so if the signal gets too high too long, then this the receptors start growing deaf to it, so they don't respond to it anymore. Meaning, if you just take these high GLP1 peptides, the glucagon-like peptide one, it's like Ozempic Wagovie that came out in the beginning, right? And you just take this high dose all the time. Well, pretty soon it's not do, it's not doing what it's supposed to be doing because the dose has gotten higher and higher and higher, and the cells basically the receptors are becoming more deaf to it. There's a dosing specialty to this dosing
What Peptides Are In Plain Terms
SPEAKER_01part that you have to really understand a little bit about that we're all learning. Some of them should not be done, you know. You don't just do a bunch of peptides all the time. They're specific too.
SPEAKER_00Right.
SPEAKER_01So we use we use certain peptides for weight loss, we use certain peptides for mitochondrial building, basically getting the power plants within the cells up and running and fixed up. Because without power plants within cells called mitochondria, we don't function. Just kind of a I don't know, a broad stroke stroke across that was a genius, genius broad stroke.
SPEAKER_03That way, man, I'm my my my receptors are going bing, bing, bing, bing. I want more, I want more. Yeah, that was great. Go ahead, Ted. You had a question?
SPEAKER_02Well, I've just so you mentioned the GLP ones, which is uh I assume one end of the spectrum, and then you have collagen, amino acids, those types of things that you can buy over the counter. Obviously, there's a huge difference between those two. Is it just the amount, or what is the difference between those?
SPEAKER_01Well, a pep the peptide or the what I was talking about earlier is a sequence of amino acids strung together in formats where they're they're different altered depending on what the it's a text phrase. Basically, it's a text message from the body that's being released within the body that basically is a messaging system. Now, proteins when we talk about like collagen peptides that you buy at the grocery store and peptides that we take for dietary purposes, those are different. Those are thousands and tens of thousands of amino acids, protein structures folded on top of one another that make up our structure. Because we're made as human beings of proteins that are that make up our hardware, if you will. So those are multidimensional in terms of their size and scope, but these are short little amino acid chains that we that are text messages. So I'll give you another example at night when we go to sleep, when our body starts to reach slow wave sleep or this you know, stream sleep, or move from stage four to stage five, it activates our pituitary gland to start releasing what we call human growth hormone. Human growth hormone is a peptide, it's 191 amino acids strung together in a particular chain that then circulates, hits the liver. The liver then converts it to what we call insulin growth factor type one or IgF1. That's an example of a peptide. Now, a pep the the peptides you buy in collagen peptides from Costco or something, those are very, very different. That's the structure proteins that are, you know, if you unwound and we'd be stringing these things all over the place, they they go that long.
SPEAKER_03Do those have what's your opinion on on a on a you know, Costco or or vitamin store peptide? Like what do you what do you what do you got to say about that?
SPEAKER_01When you call those, those are basically like collagen. Collagen is a is a form of protein. So we we wouldn't call it a it's it's made up of peptides, but it's not a peptide in the sense of what we've been talking about. So I think of you know, there's there's different types of of collagen out there. There's some trademark names of type one, type two, type three, type four collagens that are very good that some companies so some are easier to absorb. Some aren't. The kryptonite with collagen is it really does not contain what we call tryptophan. Tryptophan amino acid, it's critical to the human body infrastructure. So collagen, you know, doesn't have that amino acid to really use for rebuilding. So there's some, you know, there's there's conjecture on you know, does collagen really work to rebuild joint tissue and all this stuff? So because you got to break down the the protein first in what if it's a dietary form, our stomach breaks apart proteins into you know dye, bide, tri polypeptides, basically two by fours, two by sixes, bricks and mortar that in our body takes those building blocks to make new things.
SPEAKER_00Right.
SPEAKER_01So how a person, you know, the different types out there manufacturing in supplements, unique world in of itself, you know, make their stuff. They actually have it manufactured for them. So they contract manufacture it, meaning they hire a manufacturer to make their product, but they come up with the product that they actually want and work with the manufacturer on. I want this. So you can, you know, make collagens that break down a little bit easier in the body, that are a little bit more absorbable in the body, and then there's other ones that are just a little bit just less absorbable, that sort of thing.
SPEAKER_02Right. Yeah, and I guess it's the purpose you're using them. I guess would I I know some of the collagens they talk about nail strength and hair growth or that type of thing. And yeah, yeah. Well, hair health, I should say.
SPEAKER_01Skin, hair, and nails, you know, collagen is made up of that, of course. So yeah, protein in general is a really good thing just across the board, especially when you talk about metabolism too, for getting a person's metabolism running faster and controlling blood sugar better. Yeah, skin, hair and nails is a big deal. If people don't eat enough protein, if they're doing the GLP1, the weight loss peptides, what happens is you just don't eat as much food. And because you don't eat as much, well, if you don't get enough protein, you start having problems. So if you're cutting back on that, and what happens first is that just this is important is the first proteins that we eat as human beings go to priorities. So our body has a priority of doing something called detoxification, which our liver does every day. And the liver can use up to between you know, somewhere 20, 25, up to 30 grams of protein before 12 noon to go through it's what we call phase two detoxification. There's two phases in phase in liver detoxification, phase one, phase two. In phase two, we can use up to 20 to 30 grams of protein before noon. And so then protein goes to not only our liver, say first and foremost, for priorities, and it goes to our immune system and then to priorities, things like our heart's more important, our brain, our bones, our blood, then skin, hair, nails. But guess what's last in line to receive protein and building blocks in the human body today? And that's muscle tissue.
SPEAKER_04Wow.
SPEAKER_01And so muscle gets left out a lot for protein intake. And so if you're cutting back on your protein on a GLP1, you're gonna notice that your muscles really suffering. First, you don't you just can't see it, but then what you start to see are skin, hair, and nails. Like hair is a protein, nails they grow and slough off. Muscle tissue does much the same, we just can't see it. So if hair and nails are suffering, here's where I'm going with that. If skin and hair or hair and nails start to suffer, degree they're not growing as much, they're more brittle, etc., muscles really suffering because the hair, the hair and the nails are getting protein before our muscle tissue.
SPEAKER_04Wow.
SPEAKER_01So this is why people lose muscle. And why you don't want to lose muscle is for not because so you can look big and muscular, is muscle is our metabolism. Muscle contains the engines that do most of a lot of the calorie burning. So a pound of muscle tissue, if it's functioning properly, can just idle for a 24-hour period and burn 50 calories, so it can burn a lot of energy. So if, for example, I don't take enough protein in my body, then the metabolism that's got to run the entire body for us without us thinking about it, basically says to muscle, and especially if you've been training or exercising on these things, and basically looks at your muscle and just has a small pile of protein and says, sorry, guys, here's this is all we got, divvy it up amongst yourself. And so you don't have enough building blocks to fix and repair all of the tissue that you broke down. So that's basically like saying that the body starts shutting PG and E off in cells because you just don't have enough protein coming in to fix all repair all the muscle. Your metabolism starts to suffer, you start to lose more muscle. You know, it's noticeable in some people, and you see some of the recipients on the end of this as they just get thinner and thinner and thinner, and they're losing more
Collagen Products Versus True Peptides
SPEAKER_01muscle, and they're definitely going to start suffering in hair. And I don't I've never met a female, for example, that wants to be involved with hair loss. So it's right, yeah.
SPEAKER_02It sounds like you know, whether it's GLP one, whether it's intermittent fasting, you you name it, yeah. It's you know, you you have to take in enough protein, and you have to change your habits as far as you know, like the GLP ones you were just saying, you could lose the weight, you're not necessarily getting healthier, you know. You well, you get the benefit of losing that weight.
SPEAKER_03Yeah, part of that weight is the is muscle, unfortunately. Muscle.
SPEAKER_01Correct. Yeah, and and and I just mentioned thanks for bringing that point up too, Ted, because it's not just your muscle and metabolism. Muscle is also our immune system, okay? Wow, muscle contains an amino acid called glutamine, and glutamine is the fuel and gasoline for much of the white blood cell activity, so meaning it's activating and energizing our immune system. So if you lose muscle, you lose the ability to be immune strong, right? And you lose immune strength. Muscles are also responsible for bone density. And any scientific measure of bone density loss, mortality goes straight with it. So muscles, longevity, it's not just cosmetic. Muscles, longevity, and health. This is why we're trying to build lean mass and as people get older, maintain their muscle, make sure that they're training for other metabolic reasons that we could we could touch on, but but it's important that people keep their muscle that they're losing, because the average person after high school, every decade is losing around 15% of their lean mass.
SPEAKER_00Wow.
SPEAKER_01So well, they could be the same weight, 180 pounds at you know, 60 years old, but they're that's fine. But unless they've been training and maintaining and keeping up on that, with they're they're they're not going to be the same composition, right?
SPEAKER_03So, would you say a training? So some weight-resistant, weight-bearing kind of activities, weightlifting and stuff like that.
SPEAKER_01Correct. Resistance training is critical for not only building and maintaining muscle, but also activating basically all the entry points for food and fuel to get into. So think of all of our muscles on our body as big sponges that fill up with food and fuel, and they've got gates on the outside of them. We call it insulin receptors, and exercise comes along and on an individual muscle and takes like a crash cart with paddles and shocks those receptors to wake them up so they work better for the 20 first next 24 hours, which means that person has better insulin sensitivity.
SPEAKER_00Right.
SPEAKER_01And insulin sensitivity is the opposite of insulin resistance, which means those gates that allow glucose and fuel into cells and muscle cells, they're not working that well. They're starting to break down. And so when gates aren't working well, as insulin picks up, basically shuttles glucose into the cell, it can't get through the, it's ringing at the gate, the doorbell, and nobody's answering. So then what happens is the fuel that can't be pushed in there bounces over to the liver. The liver has this incoming fuel that should have stored in your muscle and says, we don't have room for you either, and converts it to a fat called a triglyceride, and then ships it off on a boat called an LDL to store it nearest, you know. I joke Daryl's mini storage, which is a storage facility in our local area here in Central Valley, which means that fat starts to store in the stomach. It starts to marbolize in the liver, it starts to create more fatty liver issues, more visceral fat. And that is fat that we do not want to be gaining more of through time because it's extremely inflammatory.
SPEAKER_03Yes, Lord knows. That's where I had I gotta talk to you about that myself, man. But uh we'll we'll get that. Ted, you had another question?
SPEAKER_02When you when you were talking about the studies, the testing in Russia, they were using peptides, is that correct?
SPEAKER_01Yes, yes, they were. They were yeah, they were using peptides like uh the BPC body protective compound 157. He was using a peptoc peptide called our body makes it as thymicin beta 4, but that's the form we make. But the synthetic form that's the same thing basically is TB500, okay? Yeah, and he was using those two. He was using something called GHKCU, which is a copper-based peptide. He was using something called FOXO4, which helps to get rid of increases apoptosis or helps senescent cells to basically go away, called autophagy. He was using something called mitochondrial operating frame system or MOT C, that's another peptide that he was using, and thymulin, another one that helps to stimulate what shrinks as we age, which is called the thymus gland and its role and function in the body of immune system and energy and mitochondrial function, cellular function, cellular rebuilding. So those peptides he was using, and that information got out. They were called, they called it the Benjamin Button Protocol. That's what a Dr. Ben Greenfield, who uh I like a lot and read his stuff, who actually was was talking about. That's where I first learned about those particular peptides, especially like thymulin and foxophore, etc. But it was called the Benjamin Button Protocol, and they were, I think I believe, six different peptides that you could use for for health purposes. One was called epitalin. It will look like it says epithalin, so it's pronounced everybody pronounces a little bit differently. It's like there's one called epimorlin, it's called epamarelin. So they get pronounced differently, but it's we're we're talking the same language, but it's called epitalin. And epitalin was a unique one. There's actually some information on that out there, that it's the first modulator that we've ever found that's ever been found to actually increase what's called telomeres. And telomeres is basically telomeres, telomeres are the end caps on our DNA, and these end caps, much like shoelaces at the end of a shoelace, there's caps. Those caps called telomeres or telomeres, these actually shorten through life. And so as they shorten, we know the cycle within our body is actually decreasing and we're losing life expectancy, if you will. So there's an enzyme called telomerase, and telomerase, there's been a search for the last 25-30 years, and how do we increase that enzyme to get those telomeres to actually
GLP-1 Weight Loss And Protein Loss
SPEAKER_01lengthen some? And so there's been you know $200 a month supplements that have been made. They've tried some different pharmaceuticals, but you know, to nobody's uh success, where they haven't really done anything, but epitalin has been shown to actually increase that enzyme to increase these telomeres. And so there's some models on it, conjecture still, but that said if you do it once to twice a year for a three-week period, that it can extend your life by three years. Wow, wow, that's crazy. So these are just that's just small examples. Now, all of this stuff can be cavalier or or bravado, but in reality is that they're not FDA approved. Okay, so we need to say that first, but that doesn't mean anything because there's lots of animal studies, especially for like the BPC 157, and that's where we start studies. And really quick, I think it's important to say that well, why isn't it FDA approved? Well, because it takes a few billion dollars to get something approved, and these peptides, since the human body makes these, these are endogenous, they're not patented, meaning you can't patent them because we make these, it's a natural organic source, basically we're organic or we make them, and so they can't be monetized really. So if you put out two billion dollars, let's say, for human trials, because in in getting FDA approval, you have to do three phases: phase one, phase two, and phase three human trials with something, and it costs a lot of money to do it. And so if you're trying to recruit your two billion, move a lot of peptides to a lot of people because there's just not that much money in it. So this is why when somebody says, Well, it ought to have to be approved. Well, they're probably not going to be because there's no money in it. You can't pet you can't patent these things, so you can't put a hold on it, say it's ours, you know, right?
SPEAKER_02Right. But aren't the pharmaceutical companies getting more involved now in some of these things?
SPEAKER_01They they are. They well, for example, Ozempic, okay, or sumaglutide, that's the first peptide that is okay, that went through FD approval. They engineered that peptide. So it is a GLP1. We make a GLP1 in our body that circulates when we eat a meal, basically, or before we eat a meal, circulates and tells the body what to do. It tells our digestive system about how to break how you know how fast to run and breaking down food. It affects brain appetite, A and PK pathways. It basically instructs the body saying there's food coming in, we need to prepare for it so that we can get this food picked up, processed, and sent to the human body, etc. So it's been engineered, which means they can patent it. So the first one, Ozempic, that's the diabetic one. Then they came out with Wagovi, which is the weight loss size. So they branded them two different, marketed them two different ways, but it's the same peptide. And then the second generation, which is a two-dimensional peptide, is called tearzepitide, and that's a GLP1 GIP, and that's glucose, insulinotropic, polypeptide is the GIP term. It used to be called gastrointestinal peptide, where they discovered it, but so that's an engineered peptide. And also, I want to say about those two because I think this is important. The first studies done on semaglutide, they really were studying like cognitive, could it improve cognition? And what they found is that through the, you know, partway through the studies, that all their subjects were like losing weight, their blood sugar long-term A1C level was dropping, their blood sugar was dropping. So they realized, oh my gosh, what they had their hands on. So they back, they basically kind of stopped the study and retracked it and fast-tracked it for diabetics. So then it got involved with diabetes, but there's it's still got its implications in how it can be used cognitively, which means there's benefits there. But there's a big one that's called that that it balances the brain to a degree, which is there's two pathways called the AMPK and the MTOR pathway. And those pathways are critical within cells. And when they get out of balance in the brain, it causes more of an impulsiveness about us to want things. So I want another cigarette, I want another drink, I want another cookie, I want another whatever it is. And so the GLP1s, GIPs, they they they balance that those pathways together and harmonize them more, which means, huh, I don't feel like having another drink, I don't feel like having another peptide, I don't feel like having another drug. So, what does that mean? That means that there is a huge desire or to to look at this in the chemical dependency recovery area too, as well, going forward. You know, we're just in the beginning of the wild west of this whole growth phase of peptides and learning what they do and how they can be used and etc. And I'll I'll just finish with this, guys, is with the peptides is the BPC157 peptide. There's a gazillion animal studies on this. There's also other studies that have been coming out, more in the area of you know what they've seen with human beings, but it's a body protected compound, it's a massive anti-inflammatory peptide. So it affects every cell in the human body. It especially is involved in what we call angiogenesis of getting blood flow to injured areas of the body. Well, what's injured areas? Well, we all think of you know orthopedic stuff, but think of heart cells injured, endothelial lining of our blood vessels damaged. That's those are injuries to cells. Doesn't matter what the injury is, that BPC-157 helps to facilitate all of the sending the army, the navy, all the rebuilding crews to those damaged areas and helping to tear up the old structure and then put down new girder beams for new structure we call you know collagen remodeling or tissue regeneration. And so it's involved with doing that. Then you top off that one with the TB500. Well, the TB500 they found initially in all damaged tissues of the body, they as they pulled the damaged tissue apart, they found what was consistent was there's lots of TB500 peptide in there. So we know it's involved with something, and then they found that it's basically not just involved with the rebuilding or laying down, you know, breaking up old scar tissue and laying down new reforming, but it's it's basically helping the body to heal faster, recover quicker, blood flow, skin, hair, nails, bones, heart helps to heal heart cells that have been damaged. You know, that's just a couple. And there's, I mean, currently they're they're finding, probably discovering four or five, unpacking four or five of these per month, if you will, if we use that as a number, and learning what they do, and then okay, here's what they do. How can they be used in application and then start going down that road? So we're just entering the the genesis of this entire world, which my opinion is in the next 10 years, this will be the entire new forefront of cellular medicine, which would be peptide.
SPEAKER_02That's huge. Well, it sounds like when they're they could be looking for one thing and finding something else. Yeah, well, that's what's happening with the same thing. Because you mentioned you mentioned that thing about not wanting the extra cookie or not wanting this. I think I think they call that quieting the food noise in your brain. When yeah, and now you're saying they're looking at that for possible people with with some sort of addiction, addiction to shit.
SPEAKER_03Absolutely. There's a few people who I who I coach who are in the addiction area who have who are on GLP ones for weight loss, yeah. But they clearly state that they have a completely different feeling around the alcohol with a drug, as as before when they when they weren't taking the uh the GLP one, it's a different feel, even though they were being clean and sober, they have this completely different feeling about the the alcohol and drug now where it's it's not even there anymore. And they're not, you know, when people are giving up the addiction, a lot of times
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SPEAKER_03they turn to food and they start gaining a lot of weight. And so I think it's I think it's gonna be a massive and a beautiful hit because people tend to get, you know, they trade one addiction for another, unfortunately. Absolutely. And they start overeating. But if they can, if this could be a prescription-based thing where it kind of guides them and their coach to along the way, and you know, they can maintain their health and knock out that addiction, a problem of the behavior as well, along the way, and you know, have the best of both worlds.
SPEAKER_01Yeah, anytime you can improve that, it not only has I mean, those and those are massive things, but you go to the health side of this and you go, okay, as human beings, we deal with a lot of inflammation and internal inflammatory pathways. And think of uh inflammation is the cell is being bombarded with something or it's damaged, it's needing help. So it sends out SOS signals, and those are pro-inflammatory, they're called cytokines, right? That are basically I used an analogy before of an ocean liner. So a cell is an ocean liner and it's got holes in the bottom of it and it's sinking. Well, that cell needs help. It's something there's something out there that's causing problems, so it's sending out signals, sending out flares, sending out messages everywhere to get to basically for the body to come help and and and take care of what's going on. And so that's an inflammatory or pro inflammatory signal. And we deal with a lot of inflammation in the body from what? Well, sugar is a big pro inflammatory driver. So carbohydrates, etc., and all of that inflammation in the body. Causes more cortisol to be dumped out. And that's a hormone that's that we have to have and need, but we don't want it being just dumped out all the time unless it's normal or real inflammation. Real inflammation would be normal inflammation, it'd be like a bunk on the head, damaged tissue. But imagine we've been eating a lot of the things that say we shouldn't, and suddenly cells are bombarded with a lot of pro-inflammatory signaling, and then our body starts dumping out a lot of cortisol. Well, what does it do? Well, it starts damaging those insulin receptors. So then you can't drive fuel into your cells very well, so it starts pouring into your liver more, which is why we get this cortisol fat in our midsection or visceral fat from a lot of cortisol. Going back to the say the GLP1s and in the anti-inflammatory, like the BPC157, say master anti-inflammatory, that lowers inflammation. That means we lessen cortisol because whenever there's inflammation, pro-inflammation, our body releases anti-inflammation. And the anti-inflammatory administrator is cortisol. So as inflammation goes up, cortisol goes up. So think of a balance beam as cortisol is going up. Well, now it's starting to pull down something called progesterone, and especially in females. When you need progesterone and it needs to increase through the month, especially from ovulation to menstruation, and it's all being pulled down and converted to cortisol because your body basically says cortisol is more important to the human body than reproduction and progesterone. So that goes to the side. Well, what happens with low progesterone with females? Cycle problems. Wake up in the night, can't go back to sleep. Start to develop more cortisol, more insulin resistance, more insulin resistance. Now you pump out more insulin, and insulin picks up everything to push it into cells, but it also causes abnormal cell growth. So higher insulin levels, more abnormal cell growth, more cysts, more abnormal cell growth, which we don't want.
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SPEAKER_01Low progesterone from making more cortisol is going to start causing blood sugar problems, miscarriages. I see a lot. A lot of problems. So going back spinning around to the peptide, imagine the GLP1 or the BPC157 peptide, they start to lower inflammation in the body, and suddenly your core your cortisol goes down. Well, what's the benefit to that? Not only progesterone, but get this one. Cholesterol is what our body uses to make cortisol. So if you lower cortisol, you automatically are lowering cholesterol, which means now your cholesterol is not high.
SPEAKER_04Wow.
SPEAKER_01So we we treat that as though it's high because we're eating yolks and beef and all. It's like, no, it's because of inflammation in the body, and whatever the inflammation is from our lifestyle, eating, habits, et cetera, we're pumping out more cortisol. And when you're pumping out more cortisol, you got to make more cortisol. What do you make it from? Cholesterol. So cholesterol is automatically preceding the manufacturing of cortisol. So if you get weight loss and lower inflammation, you lower your cortisol. Guess what? Your cholesterol levels go down, your cholesterol goes down, you're getting off cholesterol medication.
SPEAKER_03Oh, yeah, you're off the meds.
SPEAKER_01And then if you're if you're lowering that and lowering inflammation, well, when inflammation goes down and insulin levels go down, then you don't, then you have better nitric oxide release in the body. What does that do? It relaxes blood vessels. Now your blood pressure starts dropping down. So as your blood pressure comes down, your cholesterol comes down, think of all the medications out there in the world, pharmaceuticals, that could be affected. I want to be the first to say that I'm not at all ever advocating for anti-pharmaceuticals. No, they're needed and they're necessary in our world that we live in for some genetic reasons, but largely lifestyle issues. So if we change the lifestyle through some of the things that we're talking about, then we we use medications more sparingly. So the idea with medications in any pharmaceutical is the least amount for the least amount of time, if there's not other some underlying issues that I'm not discussing right now that and be need for it. So there is a need for pharmaceuticals, but there's a new tool that's going to be used in our world, which is the peptides. It's not an either-or. And so I think it's important to really state that. So it's not just, you know, this guy's on the peptide kick or whatever. It's no, I impressed by what they're doing. I grew up in the world. My father was a biology teacher, college level, uh cellular biologist, so in four master's degrees. So I was hit getting hit with this stuff as a kid and asking a lot of questions of how things worked. It's a it's a new frontier, it's a new world. And we'll really see how it kind of unwinds and unpacks. But we're all in the same boat, if you will, learning. It's not like somebody's gone up ahead and they've got the fix on all this stuff. So when you hear lots of different opinions or approaches on this, it's just because of that reason. We're it's getting tweaked, tuned, we're learning more. How I think about peptides today is very different than I did even two months ago. And how they would they I would be even talking about suggested how they might be used.
SPEAKER_03On that note, I want to ask you a quick question because the our our this podcast is our audience is for people who are 60 and beyond. That's the fourth quarter. And so, how important, in your opinion, is it for because this information is coming out at a rapid pace, and the people who are 70, 80, 90, and the whole technology thing, sometimes that overwhelms them. Okay, not not not everyone, but many. Okay. And so, but but how is it important? How important is it for them to you know do what they can to stay informed and educated? And is there a big benefit for elderly people?
SPEAKER_01There is, and and I'm glad you said that, Doug, because I want to say this because I think it's really important. The peptide that we we're talking about, they they facilitate actions in the body, but we need all those systems that are affected by this peptide to be up to par and sort of nutritionally balanced, which most systems aren't, which means that getting a balanced diet and then the supplements that I'm gonna even talk about right now are foundational in the world that we live in today because of certain reasons. And this is a worldwide deal. So when I talk to practitioners around the globe, we're doing these same four or five things, which is okay, the foods that we eat, for example, we don't actually know what total foods we're getting. When we look at a label on a food product, you're looking at a label that's largely been there since the 60s and the 70s, meaning we don't take soil
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SPEAKER_01samples out and exactly examining how much went into this particular crop with every single nutrient and et cetera. We don't do that. We just know that over time we're seeing deficiencies because of large manufacturing large industrial uh farming practices. The soils aren't really getting life back into them because real soil has biology in it, meaning there's worms and there's bugs and there's spiders and there's gophers running around. And and so what are they doing at a microscopic level? Fungi and algae are getting eaten up by something called micro toads, and they're gobbling up, and everybody's eating and pooping and eating and pooping, and that creates food, fertilizer, nutrients within the soil over a long period of time. So when you're constantly farming and laying down, you know, NPK to get foods to grow faster, that's nice or nitrogen, phosphorus, and and potassium, then foods are looking good, but they don't have the nutritional value in it. So a good multivitamin is critical today. How you can know, well, how do I know I'm getting a good multivitamin? You know, I just get this one a day off Amazon. Well, here's what here's what you need to look for. First, you can be a quick expert if you just scroll down to see the type of magnesium that they put in there. If you see the word magnesium oxide, a salt-based magnesium, that's not very absorbable, you don't really absorb a lot of it. So you want it to have whatever the product is that has magnesium in it, it needs to be chelated. That means that whatever you see at the end of the magnesium has an ATE at the end of it. So it's magnesium something eight, so like magnesium taurate or glycinate, uh, malate, orotate, citrate, something with the ATE. So that means that the company that made this form of magnesium and magnesium, besides a good multivitamin that you need to and it needs to be chelated, you also should get the B vitamin. You should look at the B vitamin, and there's certain methylator nutrients, and methylation is huge in cellular function, detoxication, brain function. And a lot of us have a gene problem where we have what's called the MTHFR gene. We don't methylate very well. And when you don't methylate well, you don't convert cobalamin, which is, or I'm sorry, folate, which is vitamin B9. It's a big nutrient in the body, it's called folate. And when we take in folate from food B9, our body has to convert it to something called L5 methyl tetrahydrofolate or methylfolate. So we have to methylate it. Well, if we've got this methylation problem, we don't methylate folate very well. So we need to be taking in a methylated form of folate. So here's what you look for in a multivitamin. Look for folate first. Is it methyl folate or L5 methyl? It'll say methyl tetrahydrofolate or folate trademark kind of a thing, or methylfolate trademark. So we want it to have a methylated B9, then something called methylcobalamin, which is methylated B12. And a lot of times it'll say cyanocobalamin, okay, or cyanocobalamin. What is that? That's a cyanide molecule bound to the magnesium, and so we're supposed to break off the cyanide, then we've got the free cobalamin, and then we got to convert the cobalamin to methyl cobalamin. Well, if you just get a vitamin that's already methylated, so the Bs are activated or methylated, so that's B9 and B12 are methylated with the ATE magnesium, then you got a good you've got a good multivitamin. So you need a good multivitamin. Why? Because we don't get all the nutritional uh needs in the vitamins, and we're eating a lot of foods that are stripped, which means that makes it even more of a load on the body. So every nutrient in a multivitamin has been well studied to improve insulin sensitivity, for example. Our liver needs a lot of nutrition to actually detoxify anything, any chemical that comes in the body from smoke, diesel smoke, shampoos, lotions, cosmetics, etc. And so a good multivitamin assists our liver in its phase one, phase two detoxification. So a good multivitamin person needs the next thing they need that's that's critical is magnesium. We have found that we're getting about 40 to 43 percent less magnesium today than we did in the mid-90s, just in our dietary intake of food. Well, magnesium is a critical mineral for what? It helps to support something called GABA and serotonin. Well, what are they involved with? Well, they need to be supported so that serotonin can convert to melatonin at nighttime to actually put us in a deeper sleep. We need GABA to be elevated so that GABA is responsible for dreaming and dropping our body into that REM state sleep where we produce more human growth hormone and recover. Magnesium deficiency I see in clients, like, for example, if I asked the audience, how many of you dream? Why? Well, if we put them on magnesium, guess what happens? They start dreaming pretty quick.
SPEAKER_04Wow.
SPEAKER_01And so magnesium helps for sleep recovery. Magnesium is involved in driving blood sugar into cells, so it's involved in basically helping with here's a good one stomach fat loss, for example. Magnesium's involved with hundreds of functions in the body, so it's not just sleep and things like that. But if a person takes it regularly and they take, say, a form of magnesium glycinate, for example, and they take at least 240, 250 milligrams before bed or at nighttime, it helps them relax. And I guarantee you they will start sleeping better and waking up more refreshed. So multivitamin magnesium, the third one that's critical is omega-3 fat. It's called an essential fat. Whenever you hear the term essential, it means our body can't make this, and so we have to get it from nature. The two essential fats are called omega-3 and omega-6 fats. They're both different. Omega-3s help to regulate anti-inflammatory signaling in the body, so they help keep inflammation down. The sixes are pro-inflammatory, so we need them both. Well, the average American's getting way too many of the sixes, up to 20 times the sixes. They are threes. Well, why is that? Because omega-3 fats are in sea life, they're in uh seeds like chia seeds and flax seeds and something I take called Zen basal seeds. They're in small amounts in other varying plants, all the plants. The omega-6s, guess what, are in grains. And we get a lot of grains. Well, we don't eat off the pyramid 11 to 13 servings of bread, cereals, and grains any longer. But guess what are eating grains? Are cows? They're not supposed to eat grains. If they eat grains, it makes their their meat, the dairy, the beef, the meat fat from them more pro-inflammatory because they get inflamed from eating those foods they're not supposed to. By the way, if they eat grass, grass is contains an omega-3 fat for the animal, and that omega-3 is called alpha-linolinic acid. That's an anti-inflammatory fat. So if cows would eat grass, then they get the they're they're they're not as inflamed, if you will. So the sixes we we get are from, you know, just buying beef out there, etc. Chicken, they're eat they're being grain-fed too as well. They're not they're supposed to run around and eat bugs and spiders and worms and seeds and you know, things that are you know relative to them to nature.
SPEAKER_00Right.
SPEAKER_01So it's important, it's important that we can't control all of that. So you know, go to a hamburger stand, is that grass-fed? No. So what we do is I recommend getting the omega-3s up in the body to compensate for those sixes that we get too many of, so that that keeps inflammation down. If inflammation's down, then guess what? Their cholesterol comes down, less cortisol, they've got better insulin sensitivity, they're not as inflamed. So, how much omega-3? I think that the average person should get about 1200 to 1,500 milligrams of a EPA DHA or omega-3 supplement. The one caveat to that is it should be the the omega-3 company should have molecularly distilled that omega-3 rather than in the manufacturing process to pull out the metal, whatever was metals in the sea life. They use solvents or hexanes to do that, and that's just kind of trading one dirty problem for getting rid of another. So, molecular distillation, and there's a lot of companies that do that, and that means it's odorless, you don't burp it, it's not fishy, but but 12 to 1500 milligrams of EPA DHA, those are the two uh omega-3 fats, essential. And the last thing I'm gonna say is vitamin D3. Okay.
SPEAKER_04Ah, okay.
SPEAKER_01Now we call it vitamin, but it's really not a vitamin. If you look it up on Wikipedia or just its molecular structure, it doesn't even look like a vitamin, it looks like a hormone, and it's because it is, it's a pro-hormone. So glands make hormone. We all know that from biology. When we took biology, glands make hormones, and the largest gland in the human body is our skin. So our skin takes ultraviolet rays and synthesizes it from sunlight and converts it to T3. That every cell in the human body has a D3 receptor, and that D3 then is a hormone, activates that cell in terms of regulating our immune system so we don't over-rev. And that's what caused we find now after the fact, but caused a lot of the problems where people went into the hospital and couldn't breathe for breathe from COVID because their immune system wasn't regulated. It over-revd and sent out the Army, Navy, Marine Corps, and everything into the lung area where all this blood and this virus was you know attacking blood, if you will, right? And they couldn't breathe. And so they found after the fact German Germany came out with the first COVID studies within two months and said we're noticing that people are in the hospital, 50% of them have under the level of D3 that they need, which is 30 nanogram per milliliter up to 100. So D3, why, and we're finding everybody's low across the globe. Why? Because our skin is what pulls it from sunlight, and we're finding that night lights negatively affect our skin's ability to have spidey senses to pull it from the daylight. So night
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SPEAKER_01lights like computer screens and phones and people wearing watches to bed and toothbrush lights on and night lights on and television lights, all those lights, LED lights from smoke alarms, all that stuff hits our skin, and we don't even see it because it's happening at a cellular level, but it's affecting our skin's ability to be able to pull D3 from the sun, which is why people are low. Even here in the Central Valley where we get a lot of sun. Honestly, people that get D3 levels checked that uh they come in with blood tests, large percentage of these people are actually on the bottom end or low. The the optimal level for vitamin D3, it's my opinion that it should be close to 80 nanogram per milliliter in GML. It's important that, and that's high to get, you have to you know supplement that. So in vitamin, vitamin D3, because it's it is fat soluble, needs to be transported on on fat, which is vitamin K or K2. And so a person I suggest should get a vitamin D3 with K2 in it, it's combined, and the amount that they should take is 125 micrograms or what we call 5,000 international units, 5,000 IUs of D3 with K2. And that recommendation would be safe to go out where I believe that anybody who heard that and took it is going to be in a safe level, they're not gonna go too high or anything like that. D3, multivitamin, omega-3, magnesium. And I just really wanted to highlight that today for your audience. So, because that's something that people can do that's actually gonna help them across the board the rest of their life, whether they took a peptide or didn't take take a peptide, right? They're they're they're working on the foundational support with all the systems of their body that affect their metabolism, like thyroid function, liver function, digestion, cellular uh uptake of nutrients, inflammation, etc.
SPEAKER_03Kevin, man, you gave us. I told you everybody to bring your pen and your notepad. I hope you took notes.
SPEAKER_02But I I appreciate that though, because you know, a lot of a lot of people listening are probably thinking, you know, I'm not gonna take a GLP1, I'm not gonna do this, but but that is something they can they can go to the store and do a little research and get the proper vitamins, the proper multivitamins, and start start working on correcting some of the things that are going on in your body.
SPEAKER_01I guarantee anybody listening to that that goes out and does that is gonna notice a difference within two to three weeks. They're gonna be able to do that.
SPEAKER_03Without saying anything here on on the on the show, but maybe off air, would you be willing to just tell me what you're what you're taking specifically? And then if anybody reaches out to us, you know, uh off air, we can let them know, hey, this is what absolutely. Okay, so if you want to know what Kevin's taking, you know, reach send a text message to Ted and I on the show, and we'll private we'll privately message you uh, you know, some of the things he might be taking.
SPEAKER_01Yeah, absolutely.
SPEAKER_03Okay, good. So Kevin, we're gonna move to the part of our show, and thank you. Oh my gosh, my my mind is just blown right now. But we're gonna move to the part of the show where Ted is going to share a song. This is toward the end of the show here. You and I are gonna listen to it. I don't know the song that Ted chose, so you and I are both brand new here listening to this. But afterwards, we're gonna just say a brief little comment where what it stirred in our heart and in our mind, and then we'll close the show.
SPEAKER_01That sounds great.
SPEAKER_02This is this is very basic. I mean, you got into the details, and I I got the general, and we've talked about this, and I'll discuss a little bit more after, but here's a here's a very basic message with a little rust tint to it. All right.
SPEAKER_07You know that health is wealth, and ital is vital. They're not just some rhyming words, it's something that's just got to be heard. Who is responsible for your health? Look in the mirror, it's your very own self. You cannot rely on nobody else. This is the wealth, I tell this quality, try and take care of yourself, and this is the wealth, I tell this quality, you can rely on nobody else, this is the wealth, I tell this palita, try and take care of yourself, and this is the wealth, I tell this quality, you can rely on nobody else. Then you hear about the feel for the healing of the nation vegetable for medication So much food, so much variation, sustaination for our generation, it's there in abundance, vitamins and minerals are walling on your guns, and
SPEAKER_03Man, that it that's that kind of sums it up. Yeah, that's amazing. That is that you know, health, health, number one commodity. What has been, is, and always will be, because if you don't have it,
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SPEAKER_03it's I mean, what do you got? What what do you got really? You got another song, Ted? Or what's no? Go ahead. Go ahead.
SPEAKER_02I'm sorry.
SPEAKER_03Yeah, no, I'm just that that's what that's what came to me as I was listening to that. Health is definitely wealth. What what do you got, Ken? What what stirred up in your heart there?
SPEAKER_01Wow, you know, this life is an address rehearsal for another one, in a sense.
SPEAKER_00Wow.
SPEAKER_01And I think that um I think we all know that and it you know, at a at our core, is we know that we need to work on taking and so how I would how I see this is that begin taking the steps to do it because this whole thing can be overwhelming. But if a person starts in a direction and starts a movement, you notice that, and when you notice and feel and connect with it, then what happens is then you own it and you're like it it gives you confidence to build on and go to the next step and so on and so forth. So, you know, the the health is wealth because at the end of the day, that's all we have. You know, we don't there's no guarantees with any of it. It does have an implicit, you know, there are you can't just ignore it and it go away. So I I would say we look at it and we do it in a way that's gentle on ourselves too, and and saying, you know what, I'm gonna take some steps and begin to make some changes, and that means cut out some of this, and I'm gonna work on cutting out this. And that's that wealth or that's that that commodity or value that there's no price to it. You know, what would we pay to have a person not have the health conditions that they help they have due to some of the ways that they lived?
SPEAKER_02Yeah, good points. Well, I'll tell you first of all, I want to thank you for coming on. It's uh it's been great, a lot of knowledge. Doug, if you'll indulge me, we're gonna end the show a little differently. Okay. If I can get through this. You know, Saturday, Doug and I talked Saturday morning, and it it's odd how things occur and you don't really know what the reason is. And I was telling them that that I was just in in a funk, just in a funk on Saturday, and really couldn't figure out why. And it turned out I found later that night that a good friend of mine had passed away. Sorry to hear that.
SPEAKER_04Yeah, man.
SPEAKER_02You know, and uh so like I said, Doug Doug doesn't know about this, but uh uh one one thing I want to clarify the guy's name is Charles. It's not the Charles that we've been coaching on air. There had been some confusion about that with some people I knew. This Charles was a friend of mine that I met in the ninth grade, and we remained friends for over 50 years, you know, and coming in and out of each other's lives over that time, but always picking up where we left off, like friends do. And, you know, the last time we connected was at our 50-year class reunion last September. Like always, we picked right up the jokes, the stories, the goofing on each other. He came back with us to the hotel afterwards, and we talked late into the night. The next morning there was a breakfast, and he and I just hung out in the parking lot. We we were the last two to leave, probably, you know, talking in the parking lot for an hour afterwards. You know, we planned to go to a sharks game together, and unfortunately, he ended up in the hospital and we couldn't make it. And, you know, it was at that time that I found out that he'd been dealing with cancer for about four years. And, you know, I have a clear memory of him at the reunion staring at the in-memorium board of classmates who had passed, you know, the same board that prompted this podcast. You know, after looking back on it, I mean, I can't imagine uh what was going through his head, you know. Uh nobody knew, you know, he kept it very quiet, nobody knew what was going on except some real close friends. You know, he's just one of the truly good guys. You know, I just I asked everyone listening to, you know, just don't take your health for granted. I mentioned last week that, you know, we all have a million problems until our health is gone, and then we only have one. Do everything you can to protect it, take the first step, you know, dance the first dance, take that first walk, do whatever it takes to protect your health. Go for coffee and make that phone call or make that visit, because you'll never know if you'll miss that opportunity. You know, it's high school season, high school graduation season right now, and it seems like you know, high school graduation wasn't that long ago. Yet, you know, here we are 50 plus years later. You know, we've lost many, many friends. The in in memorial board continues to grow, but through it all we'll remain friends forever. So yeah. Well, rest in peace, my friend.
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